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March 22, 2007
Where's New Super Mario Bros. 2?
It's time for another one of my gaming demands. Today I'm demanding that Nintendo get to work on New Super Mario Bros. 2 for the Nintendo DS. Allow me to clarify, however. I'm not insisting on a sequel to last year's fantastic New Super Mario Bros. I understand that it's too soon to expect such a thing. No, what I'm after is for the classic Super Mario Bros. 2 to get a dose of the New treatment, bringing the old turnip-throwing gameplay mechanic back in a new guise much how New Super Mario Bros. revisited the original Super Mario Bros. formula. It's time to return to Subcon, the land of dreams.
Not too much should change for New Super Mario Bros. 2. Mario and friends should still be able to pick vegetables to toss at foes, enter Subspace in search of Super Mushrooms, and be able to hop atop wandering enemies for a brief ride. I just want to see the whole concept expanded: larger worlds and more playable characters. In addition to the core cast of Mario, Luigi, Toad, and Princess Peach I want to see Wario and Yoshi added to the player roster. Imagine being able to use Wario's power dash to bash right through rocks that would otherwise have to be blown apart with a bomb. Picture being able to use Yoshi's flutter jump to reach a ledge that would normally be unreachable or ground pound down through diggable desert sand in an instant. The new duo would have their own weaknesses as well. Perhaps Wario's large size ranks him as the slowest runner, while Yoshi may have trouble picking vegetables with his ungainly tongue.
I want large levels that take up both DS screens, and I want to see the original environments back for more in addition to some new settings. We're in the land of dreams, right? So let's play that angle up and change each level slightly for each character as both their fantasies and their nightmares are spread out before them. Imagine a chase level where Mario races to save the princess from being carried away by Bowser, but play the level as Wario and instead you'll see Captain Syrup running away with a sack of Wario's precious gold. Let's explore the subconscious minds of our heroes with a Mario level built of pasta and a Princess level of royal splendor. The possibilities are endless and would provide for a wealth of little touches and game-based in-jokes that make so many long-time players smile.
Although the Super Mario Bros. 2 style of gameplay has been revisited in the various updated remakes of the game released over the years, Nintendo has never truly gone back and created a new adventure based around the game's core concepts. There is a lot of untapped potential just waiting to be explored for New Super Mario Bros. 2. Until Nintendo decides to pick up on the idea and run with it we're all left to dream about what may be. Wake me up if this game ever comes to fruition.
Posted by MattG on March 22, 2007 at 02:57 PM in Nintendo | Permalink
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eah, I want to see them bring back Wart and maybe explain a bit on what he's been up to all these years.
Or how about a goofy unlockable mini-game where you can play as Bowser versus Wart - or maybe even play as Wart in the past (maybe he was locked away in Bowser's dungeons and now makes an escape - and plans revenge?). heh, maybe the whole story of a Super Mario Bros 2 sequel could be Wart hamming in on Bowser's game and being more effective as a villain.
Posted by: Freaky Lynx | Mar 22, 2007 6:56:59 PM
Well, Nintendo never went back to the concept because it's not actually a Mario Bros. game, the game was actually called Doki Doki Panic in Japan, and it had nothing to do with Mario. The whole game is kind of like a fluke, so it's no wonder the formula pretty much died.
This one's a long shot, buddy.
Posted by: Brill | Mar 22, 2007 11:39:00 PM
I believe.
But as for being the New Super Mario Bros. 2, things my get twisted with having both Mushroom kingdom and Subcon elements into one game.
Remember, Super Mario Bros 2 in japan was Lost levels for us, and Super Mario USA is SMB 2 for who is familiar with that.
So maybe Nintendo might just mix it up for us? Just to have one clear idea of a sequel. Though it would be neat that nintendo would add new stuff to that formula. It would make a wonderful Mario Game just because millions already know that regardless of its origin, in our eyes its Super Mario Bros. 2.
Oh well, let us just believe...
- g -
Posted by: MarioLegend | Mar 23, 2007 12:42:09 AM
The American version of SMB2 was not a true SMB game. Me and my friends hated it. Nobody that I know actually bought the game. We rented it two or three times. This was enough.
RIP Subcon. I don't want to see you again.
Posted by: The Raider | Mar 23, 2007 8:25:59 AM
If they made a New Super Mario Bros. 2 that was actually faithful to the Japanese version, we'd hear about a lot of DSes being broken from being slammed on the floor in frustration. I don't care what anyone says, once you hit World 6, that game is borderline torture - I think NOA might've actually made the right choice. They just should've released SMB2J earlier, and on the NES.
If it were my choice? Bypass the NES SMB2s and go straight for the best of the real second wave of SMBs: New Super Mario Bros. 2, Raccoon Mario, Yoshis, big levels, useful items, and the seven Koopa Kids again finally! Tossing in SMB2US-style multiple characters in an SMB3/SMW-style game would actually be pretty great.
But yeah, another vegetable-tosser could be a lot of fun, too...
Posted by: Eric | Mar 23, 2007 10:50:54 PM
Super Mario Bros 2 was the first game that I was even given as a birthday.. as far as I can remember , so it always holds a special place in my heart. And I hate to see people trash it. Without it, we would never have had the characters that we have today. And the enemy roster would have been really bland.
As for the difference between the Subcon and the Mushroom Kingdom, I remember coming up with an excuse after playing Mario World (it had Pokeys and even a Ninji in it) - Mario was a visitor to the Mushroom Kingdom (this was before playing Yoshi's Story) and as such, his being there was disrupting the world. His terrible dreams were bringing the villians from Subcon into the Mushroom Kingdom.
My excuse then turned into flat out fantasy when I started to dream about the idea of playing a Mario game where, after beating Bowser, the true villan Wart was revealed. This would then lead to an extra set of levels in 'the real world (which thanks to the movie was Brooklyn)' as Wart excaped to there to get his revenge on 'Marios' Kingdom'. These levels would then involve having to avoid cars and jumping from skyscrapers to skyscrapers. I even thought up this whole idea where, because of Wart coming through, it had caused a rift between worlds and was changing some evil people into Goombas who you would have to beat, and some good people into Toads or Starmen that you could rescue/use to your advantage.
Ah, my younger days, when I was more foolish.
Oh, and yes, I fully agree with Matt. BRING BACK SUBCON! And one thing I have to mention was, one of the ideas for changes I had was that Toad would be even fater. He would be able to move at speeds that would make Sonic seem slow.
This had nothing at all to do with the fact that Toad is my favourite character in every Mario game. He deserves that upgrade thanks to the painful voice they gave him.
Posted by: Grasshopper | Mar 28, 2007 10:16:41 PM
I agree- a lot of the characters from Subcon are now part of mainstream Mario mythos.
Shy Guys, Birdo (who I shall defend its masculinity to the death, despite its own...preferences elsewise), Princess Toadstool's floating ability and her throwing veggies in SMSB:M were all from here.
What I'd really want to see is something that features Toad more prominently. He's way underrated. (And, as a one of the best characters to use in SMB2 if you want to move fast. =P) [And, as a total side note, while we're speaking of hopes, does anybody else think a Kirby fighting game, featuring Kirby variants with control akin to Kirby Superstar and the addition of helpers that you can link with a la Kirby 3 would absolutely rock?]
Posted by: Fyrie | Apr 3, 2007 1:57:52 AM
YES....NEW super mario bros 2 In any form. I LOVED the game for the DS. It has been WAY too long since Nintendo made a mario side scroller. Truly fantastic.....I really hope they make a sequel!
Mike.
Posted by: mike | Apr 9, 2007 12:43:24 PM
they shoud make a sequil to the mario bros movie
Posted by: | Apr 10, 2007 9:31:49 PM
i think nintendo should make new super mario bros 2.
but i have thought of a better game super mario super smash,i will right more info off super mario super smash soon.
Posted by: George | Jun 12, 2007 8:54:19 PM
yo i think bowser should have his own game.
Posted by: bee master | Jul 9, 2007 8:17:50 PM
bowser is ccccccccccoooooooooollllllllll!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: bee master | Jul 9, 2007 8:19:54 PM
Making a new super mario bros 2 would be good if you could still do mario vs luigi but be yoshi and wario and waluigi aswell.
Posted by: Conor mc Govern | Aug 18, 2007 10:40:02 AM
If they make new super mario bros 2 they should a big bunch of charaters including the bad guys and they should bring back racoon mario
Posted by: Kevin | Aug 20, 2007 6:48:17 AM
Are you kidding? Super Mario Bros. 2 is an awful awful betrayal of the Super Mario Bros. series. New Super Mario Bros. 2 should be a new SMB3, but with a World style map.
Posted by: John Smith | Nov 28, 2007 9:33:50 PM
I like that idea of New Super Mario Bros. 2. «Pefect sequel.» It should have that special NES feeling to it you know. [«(Gosh I love that feeling!)»] [BRING BACK THE LAND OF DREAMS!!!!] I kinda like the idea that each character has their own freakish nightmare and awesome boss battles in the end each world. If only somebody were to convince Shigeru Miyamoto (the man behind Mario) or some guy who works for the Big N. Then just maybe this awesome idea would become a reality.
(Do you think if they could put Princess Daisy as playable character? I hate the fact that she only appears only Mario sports games,... never in Mario adventure games. Would love to see her in New Super Mario Bros. 2 that and in Super Princess Daisy. Imagine in NSMB. 2 Luigi finally rescues Daisy instead of Peach. HA HA HA HA!!!!! XD)
Also Super Mario Bros. 2 for NES [and currently playing it for Wii] is my favorite game of all time. I don't care what other people say about it.
Super Mario Bros. 2 RUULLLEEEESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!
And Toad is the best character I ever played, ...he rules too! He deserves that upgrade as well. XD
'till then, wii dream.....^_^
Posted by: M.E.[zero] | Dec 19, 2007 2:48:15 AM
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